Back in the late 90's I was looking for a way that the local Johns could tell
hookers from cops. Maybe a piece of custome jewelry. Then it hit me.
What is the one thing so sacred the goverment fears to directly attack it?
Answer Religeion!
So I set about creating this Sex Cult like thing. Toss a dab of this a dab of that.
Just enought to make it look real enough to get NPO status. THe Internet was farely
new at the time So I stumbled upon a few sites... Then it happened....
I believe the site Hooker Heroes was the first ... I discovered That there really WAS Temple
Prostitution & I began studying Paganism baught a copy of CAW's Green Egg, A Book titles
The World's Oldest Profession. Read & Researched & Read some more. The longer I
researched the more I learned.
As I researched I wished I could travel to see the Greek & Roman Temples, The Zugarats, & other
Temple sites. Then I though why the hell go there when they can be built here?
Why not inlist the local colleges to have the engineering students & Archects draft & build a NEW Temple
just like they had in the old days. An EXACT duplicate. Then have folks perform rites, Rituals, Fesivals
& Ceremonies as they were done in that period.
Unfortunately much was lost over time...
I then discovered Scarlet's Site. I started reading about the reality prostitutes face. I got to know the
local girls by name (some have died others moved on others retired). Again the Fantasy shed away &
a more realistic vision was born.
It's current form a tribe I call Temple of Ishtar. Yes it still is about Johns meeting Prostitutes BUT it's
MORE than that.
It's a place where sex workers can work & live in a safe place. Recieve the services they wish & give
back to the comunity by providing an educational expirience.
It would be a GREAT honor Scarlot if you would join my tribe. You've taught me much of the reality
& guided me in this.
Here is what I've etched out so far.
Ive decided that Castes are the Main funtionaries of the organization. Guilds are the one that keep the
Organization running. "Orders" are the Frats & Sororities of the Organization.
What I have is this.
God/ Goddess Caste. This caste is pretty miuch self explanitory A Person with
Good Looks & Charisma (Neither I have) Sits at Rites, Rituals, Festivals & Ceremonies.
Each representing a seperate culture.
Elder Caste... This group is made of retired Sex Workers, Caste & Guildmenbers. They act more
as Teachers & Mentors plus they run the organization.
Oracle/Prophetess Caste. This is a Female Only Caste & self explanitory in what they do.
Priest/Priestess: These perform all the rest of the work like Sacred Sex, Massage, Handfasting,
Rites, Rituals, Fesivals, Celebrations, Initiations. They are the Clergy in every way.
Finally the temple Security. This is also women only a goup of sister protecors. I obviously chose
Amazons as the name of this caste for the women warriors of antiquity.
Then there are the Guilds one for every type of job or Hobby type.
Finally The "Orders" this is a sub-cluster... This would alow for those in the guilds to denote
Heirarchy or rank. Maybe seperate groups Need a Doctor then go to the healer's guild.
Want a bread for dinner see the Epicurean Guild for a baker.
Servivices I see offered... GED/Diploma Classes. University projeects, Clinical Health Care,
Counsuling, food, shelter, clothing needs. Whatever other services a Sex worker would need.
It's goal ultimatly would be to get a street prostitute or anyone else a hand up. If they choose to leave
then fine they shoose to stay then that is fine as well. Where they go will be up to them not a Pimp,
"Boyfriend", Politician, Judge or Fundamentalist .
I hope many of you will join and help me get this up and running.
TIA
Ike
hookers from cops. Maybe a piece of custome jewelry. Then it hit me.
What is the one thing so sacred the goverment fears to directly attack it?
Answer Religeion!
So I set about creating this Sex Cult like thing. Toss a dab of this a dab of that.
Just enought to make it look real enough to get NPO status. THe Internet was farely
new at the time So I stumbled upon a few sites... Then it happened....
I believe the site Hooker Heroes was the first ... I discovered That there really WAS Temple
Prostitution & I began studying Paganism baught a copy of CAW's Green Egg, A Book titles
The World's Oldest Profession. Read & Researched & Read some more. The longer I
researched the more I learned.
As I researched I wished I could travel to see the Greek & Roman Temples, The Zugarats, & other
Temple sites. Then I though why the hell go there when they can be built here?
Why not inlist the local colleges to have the engineering students & Archects draft & build a NEW Temple
just like they had in the old days. An EXACT duplicate. Then have folks perform rites, Rituals, Fesivals
& Ceremonies as they were done in that period.
Unfortunately much was lost over time...
I then discovered Scarlet's Site. I started reading about the reality prostitutes face. I got to know the
local girls by name (some have died others moved on others retired). Again the Fantasy shed away &
a more realistic vision was born.
It's current form a tribe I call Temple of Ishtar. Yes it still is about Johns meeting Prostitutes BUT it's
MORE than that.
It's a place where sex workers can work & live in a safe place. Recieve the services they wish & give
back to the comunity by providing an educational expirience.
It would be a GREAT honor Scarlot if you would join my tribe. You've taught me much of the reality
& guided me in this.
Here is what I've etched out so far.
Ive decided that Castes are the Main funtionaries of the organization. Guilds are the one that keep the
Organization running. "Orders" are the Frats & Sororities of the Organization.
What I have is this.
God/ Goddess Caste. This caste is pretty miuch self explanitory A Person with
Good Looks & Charisma (Neither I have) Sits at Rites, Rituals, Festivals & Ceremonies.
Each representing a seperate culture.
Elder Caste... This group is made of retired Sex Workers, Caste & Guildmenbers. They act more
as Teachers & Mentors plus they run the organization.
Oracle/Prophetess Caste. This is a Female Only Caste & self explanitory in what they do.
Priest/Priestess: These perform all the rest of the work like Sacred Sex, Massage, Handfasting,
Rites, Rituals, Fesivals, Celebrations, Initiations. They are the Clergy in every way.
Finally the temple Security. This is also women only a goup of sister protecors. I obviously chose
Amazons as the name of this caste for the women warriors of antiquity.
Then there are the Guilds one for every type of job or Hobby type.
Finally The "Orders" this is a sub-cluster... This would alow for those in the guilds to denote
Heirarchy or rank. Maybe seperate groups Need a Doctor then go to the healer's guild.
Want a bread for dinner see the Epicurean Guild for a baker.
Servivices I see offered... GED/Diploma Classes. University projeects, Clinical Health Care,
Counsuling, food, shelter, clothing needs. Whatever other services a Sex worker would need.
It's goal ultimatly would be to get a street prostitute or anyone else a hand up. If they choose to leave
then fine they shoose to stay then that is fine as well. Where they go will be up to them not a Pimp,
"Boyfriend", Politician, Judge or Fundamentalist .
I hope many of you will join and help me get this up and running.
TIA
Ike
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Re: An Idea born in the 90's
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 1:24 AMHi Lazy...have you had any responses to the various posts you have put up in this tribe or others--just curious?
I do have a problem with some of the structures & ideas you have & had wondered if any others felt the same...for a start any innovative ideas around sacred prostitution & the form that any temples would take..is by right-the function of a female to create....women have spent centuries under the ultimate control of men...now don`t get me wriong I am not a feminist in the sense that others may percieve me-in fact I am an anti-feminist feminist.
The structures you mention are based on your ideal-beauty & talent being at the forefront-now I don`t want to discourage you because your ideas are also ideas that others have considered too, but you are by your own admission a dominant male & maybe a john as well-both these aspects are not the right credentials for the formation of a temple of whores....the structure has to be designed by the women themselves, because it is they who would be the sexual educators & healers.......I mean you have all these wonderful ideas I admit...but who funds & where...there are real practical things which must be considered here...I myself do not live in the USA but in the UK....but have a lot a connections over there in the states & am aware of the political & legal pressures that sexworkers are under over there.
Another issue I have with this is information about yourself..which going by your personal is sketchy....call me wary but suspicion can be the saviour for many sexowrkers in this world & gut instincts are a major essence in discernment with sexoworkers. -
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Re: An Idea born in the 90's
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 11:46 PMLynne T,
First off all great points... Maybe you should also repost this in the Tribe as well??? (Hint Hint)
Second. Why havent you started this long ago? How many street prostitutes you think know
about Fertility or Sexuality Gods & Goddess'? How many are practicing Pagans or New Agers?
Fact is untill this rises from the ashes & becomes more that a Kiosk at a Pagan or Ren Festival
then most sex workers are not ediucated that this is a third option.
Third. A no one else has done this then It looks like this one Guy is going to have to do it.
Once up, running, & real then I can had it over to someone else to run...
Fourth... Many sexworkers here in the US have not figured out the untouchable Chiurch...
Porn Star Jenna Jameson is fighting to keep open a strip clob in Arizona. Yea the city can ban
her form working They can pass laws so restrictive she can not make money... HOWEVER they
can NOT Dictiate where A Religeous Building can be built... I want to open a Church across
from a School I can... I can Preach as I please Many Racist groups exploit this & the Goverment
can't shut them down. Well if the KKK or some Anti homosexuality Bigot can open a Church why
not sex workers?
Fifth. My Profile... Yea this IS a probelm... but then again it is a work in progress. I think the profile
& the Icon says alot... a Smar Ass cutsy bunny & a perv profile... Then again if I wanted to attract more
wholesome folk I would place that in my profile... I need to start Blogging... This would inform more that just
a limited profile. Oh & BTW the Profile IS real... I also live up to my nickname... I would really rather
someone else do all the work but untill there is a BoD then I'm stuck with the job...
Ike
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Re: An Idea born in the 90's
Fri, June 9, 2006 - 3:25 AM1. I have re-posted this on Temple of Ishtar tribe Lazy as you suggested.
2. I have`nt started this convo before now because it seems there is no link to join that tribe....as well as being so busy just lately.
In the USA there are quite a few street walkers who do know about Sexuality Gods/Goddesses because of sex laws the suppression is acute & the internet is a mainstay to advertising over there...whereas in the UK, few know about Sexuality Gods/Goddesses because the laws are different & not always based at home or in a parlour...so til lately advertising on the net has not been a priority ( through advertising the connections to the above is more likely)....practicing Pagans & new agers is not the vocation for many front-line sexworkers...in fact the wishy, washy reputation that these people have had in the past..has so far not reached into the souls of front-line sexworkers...being far-removed from their everyday existence....my connection to Sexuality G & G`s did not happen to me until I was in my early 40`s...even though I saw myself as culturally aware....the Gods did not speak to me, instead they were avoided at all costs....for many sexworkers the masculine essence was not to be trusted....you are right though Lazy `from the ashes` is just where it begins.
3. Yes it takes a leap of faith to move things off the ground, but there are others who are doing fabulous work educating the masses as to their fear-ridden prejudices...it takes time & the right people in the right place to get sucgh an undertaking as this....but you will get suspicion both from the sexworkers & the communities at large....they will look for hidden agenda`s.
4. UI really do not know why you should want to open a sex-church across from a scholool this I find bizarre & dangerous...even though in theory it can be achieved by regious right?
For a section of my life I was a bona-fia drug-alcohol counjsellor with all its attributed problems..paediaphilia being just one of these...in my experience...churchs which are always close to schools are the place they are attracted to..they are attracted to the open vulnerabilty of christian people who think that God can cure all with their help...they (sex-offenders) also know that along with churchs comes families & within families are children-their chosen targets!
Even the rehabiliataion centres (always secret) for offenders after their jail terms & according to license agreements reside near scholls & churchs...so these are the vulnerable & targeted spaces for the mind of a sex offender...
you see lazy all these things have to be considered despite the best of intentions.
5. yes you need to profile yourself higher to reach out to interested audiences...& despite your honesty you must sate your claim beyond the john aspect....as johns are everywhere-they are despised by the communities as well as being fodder for the sexworkers-yes, some are honoured but strangers are always, always viewed with suspicion...especially male ones....it is a shame it is like that but they are the facts....
So start blogging, don`t expect others to do it for you...yiou need to build up a good rapure & communication level before that disappears lazy.
Is all that any use to you...I truly hope so!
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